Wipe out those split up tears because we are going to demonstrate that love just isn't a lie! This week we have Autostraddle editor as well as around symbol
Heather Hogan
speaing frankly about her 11 year(!!) connection with her spouse and all sorts of things longterm connections.

But first! We celebrate getting reunited — after an eventful summer! — and play a game title of guess the show through the fanfic.

PROGRAM RECORDS

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Heather:

We stayed out of the whole evening, that's merely thus out of fictional character for people. And I also think it had been simply, it's really indicative of your relationship, In my opinion, in which it had been the same as, this is certainly awesome. Let's simply do the second thing. This is so fun. Let's simply do the following point. And that I genuinely believe thatis only been how our very own commitment's been for like 11 years. Each step recently already been like, "This component's fantastic. What's the the next thing we can easily do?" therefore, yeah.

Theme tune performs

Drew:

Hi, I Am Drew.

Christina:

And I'm Christina.

Drew:

And welcome to,

Hold off, Is This a night out together?

Christina:


Hold off, Is This a Date?

is an Autostraddle podcast specialized in the using up question: delay, so is this a romantic date? In which Drew and that I discover all kinds of things about dating. What is dating, somethingn't dating. And extremely simply have a grand adventure, I would say.

Drew:

I might additionally point out that it was a huge adventure to date and will keep on being. I am Drew Gregory. I am a writer for Autostraddle and a filmmaker and a trans lesbian. And I want new things to enhance the blend. I never can consider something new. I think those are my identities.

Christina:

Occasionally identification doesn't change, despite what TikTok will tell you.

Drew:

I'm Jewish.

Christina:

Yeah. I mean like—

Drew:

Sort of. What i'm saying is, yeah. No, I am not spiritual, but that's also section of my identification. Possible tell from my locks.

Christina:

Which has hadn't altered though, I suppose.

Drew:

That I'm Jewish?

Christina:

Yeah. You've been Jewish.

Drew:

No, I Am Jewish. Yeah, that don't happen amongst the two periods. Well, who are you, Christina?

Christina:

I Am Christina. I am also a writer at Autostraddle. A loud homosexual online. I'm actually anticipating the regarding Princess Diana season, AKA bike shorts and sweatshirts. This is where I'm attempting to be. I am in Philadelphia, it is therefore 96 levels today. Therefore we're slowly getting here. It is simply like i'd like it immediately. It really is my perfect time. I want to end up being a principal character when you look at the autumn, and it is maybe not happening yet.

Drew:

Yeah. Well, what's interesting that you are disclosing just now is, very for our listeners, it's been per week since all of our last event, which is exactly what it always is. But also for you, we actually taped 1st six attacks even as we happened to be finding all of our voice and creating this new podcast. We taped that in advance, however we are rather present. So this is like we have now had a whole summer time. So we haven't tape-recorded in months therefore've already been around all kinds of things

Christina:

Uncharted region. The very last time we taped, we hadn't satisfied. We've fulfilled personally.

Drew:

That's true! Yes!

Christina:

Drew was a student in my personal ding, dang residence, simply chilling out.

Drew:

Yes!

Christina:

I would simply wake-up and be like, "Well, take a look, which is Drew over here."

Drew:

Therefore great.

Christina:

It absolutely was actually wonderful.

Drew:

You've got these types of a gorgeous house.

Christina:

Thanks a lot. It really is a homosexual turmoil residence and then we think it’s great extremely dearly. Yeah. Therefore we're only on a brand new trip and it is truly interesting as taking place this endeavor with the listeners. Do we have other things we would like to pontificate when it comes to before we become into our very own small game?

Drew:

After all, I am not sure. I'd a large summer time, but I Suppose situations will come up just like the periods arrive, but…

Christina:

Yeah, I don't would like you to weight almost everything right in front.

Drew:

You don't want me to spoil everything?

Christina:

Yeah. Load it-all right in front? My Jesus, what a terrible sentence.

Drew:

It sounded a bit intimate, but I really had more of a considered want—

Christina:

It did!

Drew:

I was thinking a lot more though that you were making Residence Depot and had been like entering your car, that we know there is no need, but that was additionally in which my brain is actually, that also might be sexual.

Christina:

I additionally only love that the thing that's keeping myself from probably Residence Depot is a car or truck and not the actual person who i will be. Like each and every time I've been at a property Depot, some one has become like, "Ma'am are you currently missing? Have you been secure right here?" And I also'm love, "No, honestly. A whole lot timber around. I am not safe." Therefore I have actually a casino game for Drew because we like to perform games.

Drew:

I'm hearing.

Christina:

And I also made the decision, throughout respect of my self and all of our visitor, that this was going to be somewhat intro into the arena of fanfic for Drew. So what I have accomplished is I taken five programs from Drew's Favorite Characters in tv record, I am also attending read you some tags from AO3's fanfiction and you are clearly attending have to guess which regarding the shows these labels tend to be referring to. I shall begin basic, they will certainly find out more specific for the tv show once we complement.

Drew:

Okay. I Recently involve some concerns—

Christina:

Naturally you will do.

Drew:

Because I don't know a whole lot concerning the fanfic world. So every program has words being related to that demonstrate?

Christina:

Yes.

Drew:

That assortment in specificity, I would personally picture?

Christina:

Yes. Yes, they actually do.

Drew:

And in the event that you wished to get a hold of a show that had like, I don't know, medieval times you can strike the medieval label.


Christina:

I'll claim that i did not find any medieval instances labels in almost any of the shows. Love to find it.

Drew:

Well, that is not my personal flavor, but I happened to be merely organizing some thing out.

Christina:

Yes.

Drew:

Because i suppose in my head, I became like, oh, well, if you find yourself reading fanfic, you're looking for implies that have figures you like. But that's never the truth. Often you are just looking for a subject and then you can find out shows through the fanfic?

Christina:

You could. That would be a strange way to approach fanfic because most individuals approach it knowing the ship they will have in mind. Following they claim, i wish to read possibly an alternative market type of this fanfic. Perhaps i would really like some hurt convenience. Perhaps i would really like a slow burn. Possibly i recently want some upright smut. There's a lot of places where men and women go. Right after which additionally simply extra tags, telling you the type of taste and feeling of this tale. So wewill go flavor and ambiance. Because certainly ships will give it out and an alternate universe just isn't especially helpful per the program, therefore we're going to be particular to your tv series.

Drew:

Okay, cool. Why don't we hop into it.

Christina:

Fine.

Drew:

Let's learn together. Yeah.

Christina:

All right. The first one. We are going to start with fictional politics, praise kink, abandonment dilemmas, really sluggish burn.

Drew:

Compliments kink, political… Fictional politics?

Christina:

Fictional politics, yes.

Drew:

Does which means that like politics which happen to be grounded inside real-world, however they are fictional or totally imaginary politics?

Christina:

I haven't look at the fic involved, but i am assuming it indicates completely fictional politics.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

We can keep working.

Drew:

Yeah, keep working.

Christina:

History abuse, hurt convenience, i would like smooth factors to stay and therefore will you. Hilarious tag. Just was required to read this one.

Drew:

Okay, hold off. Perhaps i will just take a moment and considercarefully what my favorite programs are. Okay. Because i am wanting to think of the demonstrates have actually politics in them. Oh hold off, can it be

The L Word?

Christina:

This option is certainly not

The L Term.

No.

Drew:

For the reason that it comes with fake politics.

Christina:

It does.

Drew:

Because Bette operates for gran. I'm not sure if you keep in mind that.

Christina:

Oh, i really do.

Drew:

Okay, why don't we see. How Many Other…

Vida

provides politics.

Christina:


Vida

features politics.

Drew:

Could it be

Vida?

Christina:

Unfortunately,

Vida

does not have any fanfics.


Drew:

Oh, just what?

Christina:

I am aware. So men and women, can it.

Drew:

Individuals, jump on that. I might read that fanfic.

Christina:

Individuals, reach it.

Drew:

Okay. Let's see. What other…

Christina:

I could continue.

Drew:

Keep going. Yeah.

Christina:

Cat and mouse. Possessive behavior.

Drew:

Oh, oh,

Killing Eve.

Christina:

There you are going.

Drew:

Cat and mouse had gotten myself. Oh, reward kink. Yeah. Okay, it is all pressing. It is all pressing.

Christina:

Almost everything ticks. Almost everything clicks. It absolutely was additionally hard because I had to track down people which were certain enough to the show, but like, this may shock one understand there's a lot of praise kink situations nowadays.

Drew:

Yeah.

Christina:

Like quite a bit. The same as plenty.

Drew:

I think that. I really like the society.

Christina:

I'm sure. One of these is certainly not in your a number of favored TV shows and/or favorite television figures because a few of your favorite television shows didn't have fics, that has been unfortunate.

Drew:

Great.

Christina:

But this is certainly a tv show there is mentioned plenty and I also think you will definately get it.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

Sooner or later. This is exactly gonna be easy obtainable, I believe.

Drew:

Oh, God. Force.

Christina:

Male friendship. Psychologically repressed.

Drew:


Looking?

Christina:

No.

Drew:


Ted Lasso?

Christina:

Yep. Yep.

Drew:

Like, just what demonstrates do we watch with men? Okay, let us attempt the gay one. Nope. Why don't we take to the direct one.

Christina:

Yeah, others any was going to be "team connecting" and that I had been like, that's a simple one. There is an easy one. Fine. Why don't we see. Canon figure demise, LGBTQ figure of tone. There is a tongue twister individually. Groups of option. Mommy girl relationship.

Drew:


Feel 8?

Christina:

No. in your neighborhood, i might state. I would personally state in this area.

Drew:


Pose?

Christina:

Yeah. Another one was going to end up being canon intercourse work, therefore — all right, there is two more.

Drew:

Okay. I really like it.

Christina:

Jealousy. I am afraid for this then episode because Really don't trust the authors. A literal label with this fic. Famous.

Drew:

Okay. What i'm saying is, I don't imagine

Glee

is found on my personal number, but that is what I would initial believe.

Christina:

It is not

Glee.

Really don't consider

Glee

ended up being on all of your lists.

Drew:

It isn't.

Christina:

But funny point. Ex-lovers to buddies back into lovers trope, household feels, friendship. A long awaited reunion.

Drew:

Ex-lovers to friends straight back. Is it

The L word?

Christina:

Really

The L phrase.

Drew:

Okay. I was like, ex-lovers to friends back once again to ex… Yeah, the ex-lovers.

Christina:

The unfortunate thing about

The L term

fanfic is the staggering amount of Bette Tina fanfic is just like, y'all demand to…

Drew:

You understand, i believe we possibly may have an excuse to get into this later on. That's a little tease in regards to our primary subject.

Christina:

Okay. Angst.

Drew:

Okay.

Christina:

Bittersweet finishing.

Drew:


Freaks and Geeks?

Christina:

Close — no, perhaps not near. Really don't must rest for your requirements.

Drew:

I'm not sure precisely why. I just got a jab at anxiety and bittersweet closing. That is merely type of my personal thing.

Christina:

Yeah. That's true. That is most evident. Romance (really unfortunate). Which is in parentheses, the actual sad.

Drew:

And it is maybe not

The Leftovers.

Christina:

It isn't

The Leftovers.

I'm not going to provide this-

Drew:

Okay. I'll be capable of getting this. Therefore angst.

Christina:

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Drew:

Bittersweet stopping.

Christina:

Mm-hmm (affirmative). Romance parenthesis sad.

Drew:

Romance, very sad.

Christina:

Unresolved intimate tension.

Drew:

This is exactly all. This is simply me. This will be like every little thing. This may you need to be something.

Christina:

Yeah, welcome to fanfic, babe.

Drew:

Ooh. What i'm saying is, wow. What a welcome.

Christina:

Pining is another one.

Drew:

Just how is this in the same family members? Okay, wait, allow me to think about indicates that I favor which can be gay while having an angst. Pining.

Christina:

I'll say this show just isn't homosexual.

Drew:

Oh.

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Christina:

But it is a show that I know you adore.

Drew:

Ooh.

Christina:

Do you need one which's going to provide away?

Drew:

I do consider we need to log on to making use of the podcast—

Christina:

I do.

Drew:

But if it actually was only you and i love hanging out as buddies, i'd wind up as, no, no, no, offer myself an one half hour. But okay, provide me personally one.

Christina:

Blasphemy, spiritual stress.

Drew:


Fleabag.

Christina:

Here truly.

Drew:

Truth be told there it's.

Fleabag

is actually a reveal that given that a number of the crazy culture around it has got gone away and it's really nothing like all these annoying people's personalities, i am want, amazing show.

Christina:

Yeah.

Drew:

Just the tv series.

Christina:

Yeah.

Drew:

What a fantastic, fantastic tv plan. Which was a lot of fun. Thank-you.

Christina:

Anytime.

Drew:

And that I'd choose to merely create a public service… No, that's not what it is. Like a request to people that Needs some

Vida

fanfic. I shall read it. I don't know just who Needs it to be between. Perhaps it can be, what is it known as when it is like two… We did this. We did this when you look at the TV group. We did like a cross… What's the word because of it? What exactly is it if it is like multiple shows?

Christina:

Yeah. Cross… Cross… That thing. I'm sure what you are stating. I can not think about the term. We could bring our very own guest in. I am aware they understand the phrase.

Drew:

Okay. We're going to get into all of our major subject we can make the guest so her head doesn't explode as she is wanting to tell us this word. Guest, would you like to introduce your self?

Heather:

Yes. Hello, this is Heather Hogan. Im an Autostraddle blogger and editor. And often as I pay attention to this podcast, we perform along enjoy it's a game show whenever y'all do the games. It was very difficult personally as silent while this was taking place.

Christina:

I found myself like, this is gonna be actually enjoyable, but it is in addition gonna be so hard for me personally to work on this and Heather just be silent.

Heather:

Yeah. The best at this point was, "Exactly who mentioned It: Drew or Sappho?"

Christina:

Thanks a lot.

Heather:

And that I ended up being truly cheering like I found myself on

The Price Is Correct.

I happened to be love, "Christina, no its Drew! Its Drew! It Really Is Drew! No, it is Sappho!" Nevertheless performed great. You probably didn't even require my help at that online game.

Christina:

Re-listening to this one, I became enjoy, well, damn i know my pals slash i assume the text of Sappho.

Heather:

You did really well.

Drew:

You smashed it. I additionally experience… To make sure the video game worked, I tried it on several individuals. People who do understand me personally much better than you will do, Christina, and all couldn't exercise. So I ended up being extremely amazed by you.

Christina:

Seems like I'm successful, that will be all that matters.

Drew:

Heather, tell us just what that phrase is actually for the fanfiction.

Heather:

It is simply crossover.

Christina:

It's a crossover, yeah!

Drew:

Crossover! Oh, okay. Okay. I thought there was some extravagant phrase because of it. But anyways, if someone else desires write

Vida

fanfic that is a crossover, it really is something else entirely that I love. I'd want to see more of it. So all of our major topic recently is certainly not fanfic. It is lasting connections. Because, Heather, the length of time have you been within current relationship?

Heather:

I have already been using my spouse for 11 many years.

Drew:

Oh, which is way too long.

Christina:

Drew, have you done everything regularly for 11 many years? Because We certainly haven't.

Drew:

No, not gender. I'ven't accomplished something. What have actually I {done|completed|acco